Post by Admin on Sept 9, 2008 10:14:20 GMT 10
From: Buzz573 (Original Message) Sent: 14/05/2008 9:06 PM
G’Day all I have a query. Why is it that we all seem to follow what the Yanks are doing with regards to gold prospecting? I have read through this site and it would appear we are light years ahead of the U.S with gear. I’m not having a go at them and no offence is intended, but it is odd, I don’t think I am one eyed. But I do find this very strange. Buzz
From: wraithe40 Sent: 14/05/2008 10:29 PM
If you are one eyed in reference to that other country, that would make me a redneck in reference to that other country....
Your probably right on the money there Buzz...
But where they are behind in some good ideas, they will promote ideas when we have the attitude of knocking or ignoring...
Look at those things that have left for overseas production...
Sad loss, but alas they needed to get the things into production, not keep fighting to try...
From: bigcats374 Sent: 15/05/2008 7:43 AM
Hi Group,
Being an a American I am not to shocked or surprised at this posting. The fact that most Americans are of the mind set that if it is not broken then do not try to fix it. I am looking for ways to help me recover more fine, very fine and flour gold from my prospecting adventures.
Just my thoughts and of course question.
Thanks, Bill H
From: Banjo520 Sent: 15/05/2008 8:26 AM
Buzz, and all I am thinking that in this day and age with the net. It dose not really matter where you live. The information available on the net is across the board and country boundaries do not exist this is my view. I also feel that prospectors here and in other parts of the world search the net comparing the information they view, to the needs they require. And pick the best of what they require each and every area has it’s own requirements. Oh what an age we are privileged to live in. James
From: ureug1 Sent: 15/05/2008 9:24 AM
James, what a wise and valid comment you make.
Buzz, we come from different backgrounds as well as different countries. What WE HAVE IN COMMON, IS A PASSION FOR FINDING GOLD. As people we are all very different.
Many new ideas come from the field problems we face, and have always faced, while prospecting. Many relate to tools. We handle these problem and need for tools help etc diferently. Some look for help and ideas from history, others turn to their friends, others turn to the net (eg this forum). Others are down-right creative, or modify traditional tools making them better using modern materials, motors, pumps etc etc.
This wide variation may be because of the field or materials they work in (eg sheet metal, welders boiler makers etc) rather than where they live. Some make tools to save money, others copy what they see (saving $ or hoping to make an original better), some make a few models for themselves and their friends. Others may use their time, skills, energy abilities or $ in different ways. If they have money, they can buy this or that on the net. Many Aussies are creative and make what they want. But I suspect prospectors in US are no different.
Prospecting has a strong history in the US and gold in California and Alaska was major influence on the country and they dealt with the needs and problems their own way. These ideas are available to us (eg via the net) and new prospecting tools often come from the US. The names used on commercial products (eg Grizzly, Montana Rocker Pan) to help selling are a bit unusual to Aussies.
I don't think we need to be too patriotic when it come to tools or gear we use. I like looking at ALL new ideas. Often the principles in new "gear" appeals, the approach to solving a problem is different and worthy of testing. No matter where such products come from, if they work for me, I will use them.
Better get off the soap box, it getting rickety.
Eugene
From: roofa77 Sent: 15/05/2008 10:44 AM
James and Eugene exelent remarks, thanks john.
From: AlluvialRic Sent: 15/05/2008 6:36 PM
Hey Buzz, yeah I noticed that myself.
The Yanks are still mucking around with the same ideas from back in the 1970's & 80's.
Us aussies I think are way ahead and I reckon its just down to good old Aussie ingenuity. You just have to look at the idea of James Banjo's. They are easy and cheap to make, very light and portable BUT the main feature is THEY DO the JOB well.
From: Plucker8 Sent: 16/05/2008 8:24 AM
AlluvialRic good call. Plucker8
From: wraithe40 Sent: 16/05/2008 3:26 PM
Actually looking back on history, aussies have invented a lot of stuff used in the bush...
For instance a lot farm machine has been first developed in australia and then taken by the world...
The ute, the reaper, the harvester(followed on from the Ripply Reaper invented in sth australia), the stump jump plough, or disc plough as some know it as, and probably the coolgardie safe(not 100% sure of its origins)...
We are an ingenuitive bunch, and it would all come from a good mix of Irish, Scottish, English, Italian, German, Chinese, well honestly most of the world combined some way and a hell of a lot of crims who have to find the easier way....
G’Day all I have a query. Why is it that we all seem to follow what the Yanks are doing with regards to gold prospecting? I have read through this site and it would appear we are light years ahead of the U.S with gear. I’m not having a go at them and no offence is intended, but it is odd, I don’t think I am one eyed. But I do find this very strange. Buzz
From: wraithe40 Sent: 14/05/2008 10:29 PM
If you are one eyed in reference to that other country, that would make me a redneck in reference to that other country....
Your probably right on the money there Buzz...
But where they are behind in some good ideas, they will promote ideas when we have the attitude of knocking or ignoring...
Look at those things that have left for overseas production...
Sad loss, but alas they needed to get the things into production, not keep fighting to try...
From: bigcats374 Sent: 15/05/2008 7:43 AM
Hi Group,
Being an a American I am not to shocked or surprised at this posting. The fact that most Americans are of the mind set that if it is not broken then do not try to fix it. I am looking for ways to help me recover more fine, very fine and flour gold from my prospecting adventures.
Just my thoughts and of course question.
Thanks, Bill H
From: Banjo520 Sent: 15/05/2008 8:26 AM
Buzz, and all I am thinking that in this day and age with the net. It dose not really matter where you live. The information available on the net is across the board and country boundaries do not exist this is my view. I also feel that prospectors here and in other parts of the world search the net comparing the information they view, to the needs they require. And pick the best of what they require each and every area has it’s own requirements. Oh what an age we are privileged to live in. James
From: ureug1 Sent: 15/05/2008 9:24 AM
James, what a wise and valid comment you make.
Buzz, we come from different backgrounds as well as different countries. What WE HAVE IN COMMON, IS A PASSION FOR FINDING GOLD. As people we are all very different.
Many new ideas come from the field problems we face, and have always faced, while prospecting. Many relate to tools. We handle these problem and need for tools help etc diferently. Some look for help and ideas from history, others turn to their friends, others turn to the net (eg this forum). Others are down-right creative, or modify traditional tools making them better using modern materials, motors, pumps etc etc.
This wide variation may be because of the field or materials they work in (eg sheet metal, welders boiler makers etc) rather than where they live. Some make tools to save money, others copy what they see (saving $ or hoping to make an original better), some make a few models for themselves and their friends. Others may use their time, skills, energy abilities or $ in different ways. If they have money, they can buy this or that on the net. Many Aussies are creative and make what they want. But I suspect prospectors in US are no different.
Prospecting has a strong history in the US and gold in California and Alaska was major influence on the country and they dealt with the needs and problems their own way. These ideas are available to us (eg via the net) and new prospecting tools often come from the US. The names used on commercial products (eg Grizzly, Montana Rocker Pan) to help selling are a bit unusual to Aussies.
I don't think we need to be too patriotic when it come to tools or gear we use. I like looking at ALL new ideas. Often the principles in new "gear" appeals, the approach to solving a problem is different and worthy of testing. No matter where such products come from, if they work for me, I will use them.
Better get off the soap box, it getting rickety.
Eugene
From: roofa77 Sent: 15/05/2008 10:44 AM
James and Eugene exelent remarks, thanks john.
From: AlluvialRic Sent: 15/05/2008 6:36 PM
Hey Buzz, yeah I noticed that myself.
The Yanks are still mucking around with the same ideas from back in the 1970's & 80's.
Us aussies I think are way ahead and I reckon its just down to good old Aussie ingenuity. You just have to look at the idea of James Banjo's. They are easy and cheap to make, very light and portable BUT the main feature is THEY DO the JOB well.
From: Plucker8 Sent: 16/05/2008 8:24 AM
AlluvialRic good call. Plucker8
From: wraithe40 Sent: 16/05/2008 3:26 PM
Actually looking back on history, aussies have invented a lot of stuff used in the bush...
For instance a lot farm machine has been first developed in australia and then taken by the world...
The ute, the reaper, the harvester(followed on from the Ripply Reaper invented in sth australia), the stump jump plough, or disc plough as some know it as, and probably the coolgardie safe(not 100% sure of its origins)...
We are an ingenuitive bunch, and it would all come from a good mix of Irish, Scottish, English, Italian, German, Chinese, well honestly most of the world combined some way and a hell of a lot of crims who have to find the easier way....