Hi Rob, I use a 2.2hp Honda 4 stroke with a small Jessie pump.(The snail shell looking ones) It is 2" intake and 1 1/2" output. I very rarely if ever have needed to run it at more than 1/3 revs (usually runs at just above idle) even at Oallen pumping around 60 or 70 meters. I have never used a full tank of fuel in a day yet. James and a few others have 2.5hp Hondas which do the work very easily.
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G/day Rob, I also have one of the pumps that Ric was talking about in the 2.5hp model. From memory I think its 97cc and it will easily pump 120 metres plus with 38mm hose at Oallen at about 1/3 throttle and I think its even quieter than the 1hp model wx10. The wx15 I believe is only 50cc but still produces 2.5hp and its quite a bit noisier than either of the 97cc or the wx10 models. I dont believe that the 97cc model is available any more but its super reliable and has never let me down except when I forget to turn the off switch over to start. It weighs about 14kg. Rowdy
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Post by robgreaves on Oct 12, 2008 19:36:42 GMT 10
Thanks for the info chaps. I want to keep it fairly lightweight if I have to carry it any sort of distance, and being quiet also means I can go reasonably un-noticed at a few creeks I know that are near houses. As long as the WX10 is man enough for running my kit, I'd be happy with that. I can't see me ever having to realistically pump massive head heights.
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Post by pickenshovel on Oct 12, 2008 20:26:00 GMT 10
hi rob , ive just brought a honda 4 stroke pump and im really impressed its got the honda gx25 moter and it pumps heaps good just on idling , its super quiet as well and dont have to mix fuel like a 2 stroke , it weighs 6kgs and fits easy into my pack so its easy to lug into the bush, look at this site shows how quiet they r au.youtube.com/watch?v=tFDPVvsq9sY steve
Post by pickenshovel on Oct 12, 2008 20:56:11 GMT 10
Edge Technology: Honda WX10 water pump
Honda WX10 water pump is a superb general de-watering pump that can move 130 litres of fresh water per minute through its 1-inch pipe. This clean running 4-stroke engine is ideal for drainage, irrigation and all-purpose cleaning. Widely used for clearing floodwater and with a suction head lift of 7 meters it is often used for draining flooded cellars or boats. The very lightweight of 6.8 kg and easy carry handle makes it ideal for movement to wherever it is needed.
Input/Output Diameter - mm 25 Elevation Height - m 36 Max Flow - L/min 140
Engine Make Honda Engine Model GX25 Engine Max hp 1.1 Max Suction Height - m 8 Strainer , hose bands and couplers Yes Dimensions L x W x H - cm 32.5 x 22 x 30 Weight - kg 6.1 Fuel Capacity - litres 0.55 Oil Safety No
Post by robgreaves on Oct 13, 2008 16:12:22 GMT 10
Bought a WX10 this afternoon, the overhead cam version.
Now to fill it with oil...
Just another question too - interfacing hoses to the pump, is it best to use the supplied couplers, or find some sort of hose end with the same 1" pipe thread? The ID of the hose couplers brings the system down to about 20mm rather than the 1" diameter on the pump outlet.
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Post by geoffbbungy2 on Oct 13, 2008 19:55:06 GMT 10
Rob. A possible solution to connection problems would be to use "Camlock" fittings.They are much convenient than screw threads and you don't lose the rubber sealing washers either.You will find sizes to suit your hoses without restricting down to 20mm bore - the black plastic types found at irrigation suppliers are the best and not overly expensive.Hope you find this useful. Regards. geoff/bbungy2.
Post by pickenshovel on Oct 14, 2008 15:44:00 GMT 10
glad to hear you got one robb , yip the fuel economy is awesome ive had it running all day on two tanks , ( bout a $1.80 in fuel )with the ol chinese model i used to have a rest everytime it ran out of fuel (about every hour ) , now i have to stop it to have a rest cause it takes so long to run out of fuel , i also find im processing more gravel because i dont have to stop and refuel so the gold quantity has improved. think we'll have to start a honda club , seems like a few of us are getting or got one....... im so glad i brought it ( seemed like alot of money at the time )but hell its quiet steve
Post by geoffbbungy2 on Oct 27, 2008 11:06:56 GMT 10
Rob. The Honda WX10($605.00 most quotes) is a good pump - but don't forget to shop around for equally good alternatives such as the Subaru/Aussie pump 4stroke model QO1EHO25 (1" model) delivers max'head of 42 metres (70psi),max flow 110l/min weiht 5.2kg. If you are in the Ballarat area they can be found for $420.00. Some Honda info' indicates the WX10 good for 35m max'head and 130l/min max' flow but is actually 110l/min when you eventually track down the correct data . The Subaru /Aussie , Robin/Subaru and Yamaha are all fairly similar in performance but varying prices in the $500.00+ range. James recently made me aware of a very good 2 stroke alternative which is the Oleo-Mac Model SA18DIY that delivers up to 150l/min max flow and max head of 35 metres with a price tag around the $460.00 mark.Probably others out there if you go looking for them. Personaly I'm leaning towards the Subaru/Aussie pump as I prefer 4 strokes, the wet end is Australian manufacture,price is good,light weight for back packing and I prefer to have the extra pressure at the spray bars.The performance curve tells me that I can expect almost 18m(30psi) with about 75l/min flow rate which will be quite adequate for the short tray banjo I'm about to commence. Still haven't discounted the Oleo - Mac 2 stroke totally as it looks to be a good unit and weighs only 3.5kg. Pays to shop around. Regards. Geoff/bbungy2.
Hi there Geoff , The pump I had at El was one of those Oleo-mac's. (SA-18 ) . Have had it for over 10 yrs so far and the first real problem with it was at El when it wouldn't rev . James worked out that it was the muffler that was blocked up and a quick visit by the muffler in a fire soon cleared it out . Has otherwise always been a good dependable little pump . Ron